At least there's no cutters tonight

Cutting is lame and counter productive
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Thatguy87
i was depressed for a while, i know how it feels. pain is better than nothing. i chewed on my arms, till i drew blood. blamed it on my cat. my parents were stupid enough to believe it. it feels better somehow, like that the pain will help bring the happy back, or that its good to feel something. so i understand why. but theres so many attention-whores pretending to be emo that it becomes a joke.
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LonelyCat
dude when pple cut its not everytime there fucking god damn sad
it pisses me off when pple r so mother fucking stereotypical bout emos iight
i am emo
and u dont know wat goes on over here
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blondebambi
Thatguy, stop being so full of yourself
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LillyJane
Well great to see the turn around here. From hopelessness to inspiration. Pass it along. as much as I wish I could make this night last forever, alas it must end, I'm off Secrettalk for the night.
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Thatguy87
and i totally spelled that wrong but whatever lol
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Thatguy87
Confused? i guess you sHould rEally try hArder. i Know it must bE confusing but it's My belief thAt you cant mIss it at alL
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Thatguy87
i'm really confused
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i2have1nothing7
lol yeah what do u mean?
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guppy4816
look harder.
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Thatguy87
confusedddddddddd
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i2have1nothing7
One of you found me...now keep me ;)
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Thatguy87
you know what i got a gmail too wanna chat?

ihatepopcorn217@gmail.com
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i2have1nothing7
awesome6112@gmail.com

and thatguy87...whats urs?
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guppy4816
tunzinette@yahoo.fr

I hope we can all keep in touch :)

What's yours
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i2have1nothing7
lol k what is it?
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guppy4816
Awkward? No.
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Thatguy87
haha sorry for being awkward but yeah i got an email :)
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i2have1nothing7
ummm yeah..u guys got emails right?..llol
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guppy4816
Haha well a girl's got her needs sometimes. Guppy I think it's okay but make sure you don't go too far and try to see his true qualities. But stay careful if he's a player. Just don't get heartbroken please :)
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i2have1nothing7
Let's keep in touch?
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Thatguy87
ik....
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guppy4816
You can't let the shallow shell of someone define you're reasoning for dating them. It goes far beyond that.
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Thatguy87
hahah yeah right im dating a player...but hes so dang hot
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guppy4816
You're lucky to have a boyfriend :) I hope you guys will be happy together. Enjoy it. Still young but never had a glimpse of a boyfriend :'(
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i2have1nothing7
Then you should make an effort to get to know me while this life still allows
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Thatguy87
im here lol
and to singles...ooo
glad im taken lol
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guppy4816
Aw well trust me with this attitude you won't be for long :)
And I do hope to see you for reelz one day :P
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i2have1nothing7
I'm single.
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Thatguy87
where did guppy go?
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i2have1nothing7
aw well thank you i will :)
not like a pick up line but do you have a girlfriend i'm just wondering
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i2have1nothing7
Then use me as inspiration, and inspire others to do the same. That's the only way we can get out of the fire together.
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Thatguy87
Oh yeah I know. Nobody's perfect. but you're damn close
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i2have1nothing7
But I will let you know im not perfect by any means, no matter how selfless I may seem.
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Thatguy87
One day we'll cross paths again. I know it.
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Thatguy87
you are :) haha but lol i wish you were 10 years younger. smart and funny. perfect.
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i2have1nothing7
haha ur multi talented lol
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guppy4816
I'm a complex guy sweetheart ;)
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Thatguy87
gosh this guys got jokes and smarts lol
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guppy4816
It's flattering to know im being crushed on haha
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Thatguy87
yay! im the 100th comment...wowww lol and yeah ur pretty cool man
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guppy4816
Yes you have :)
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i2have1nothing7
Look at you, already eager to help. Looks like I've inspired you well :)
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Thatguy87
... ik you're not perfect but that's the impression you give me. how about we switch around and you tell us your problems? ik you have some... maybe we could help? I know i'm young but i've helped my 40 year old mom get rid of a stalker... and helped myself get over the abuse i went through (even thouh it wasn't as bad as most people). so maybe i could help.
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i2have1nothing7
We're all just souls going through the fire i2have1nothing7, some people just care enough about other people to allow themselves to be burned while helping others escape.
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Thatguy87
that's the spirit guppy :P
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i2have1nothing7
you are seriously a wonderful person i love you so much i swear you really lightened up my heart because you are so freaking selfless it's amazing you don't even know me and you care anyways you're so awesome :D

(I still know you're 23 and it's not a crush and i know you know that i'm just saying)
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i2have1nothing7
well i got buckets of water so watch out fire ;)
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guppy4816
Yeah look at it this way, You went through the fires of life before and still survived with little bruises (consider them battle scars). You'll run through the fire again and make it just like before...
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Thatguy87
nah the future is controlled by you. people say it can't be changed because once you're there, it can't be changed. but YOU got YOURSELF there. so you made it :P
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i2have1nothing7
oo i like the way tht sounds
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guppy4816
Exactly, while the past is written in stone, the future is yours to mold. Whether you make that mold into a work of art is up to you.
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Thatguy87
kinda hard to forget ur past when its the only thing tht got u here but no one said u cant change the future to make u new......thts my quote lol
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guppy4816
yeah keep thinking of that ^_^ so i don't go too far ever ever.
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i2have1nothing7
Imagine how great it will feel when 10 years you look back and realize..."You know what...I succeeded. I've proven myself wrong. I've risen above my fears and doubts."
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Thatguy87
ahahah yeah
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guppy4816
OH MY GOD you are such a role model to me.

(not starstruck)
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i2have1nothing7
Because the way I see it, anyone can push someone down, it takes a truly noble soul to actually make the effort to pull someone up off the ground instead.
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Thatguy87
You could say im FOR the betterment of mankind, one person at a time. If I can make one person happy, if I can inspire but even one person to succeed....then my purpose for the day has been fulfilled.
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Thatguy87
lol
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guppy4816
same here but it's still "night" for me
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i2have1nothing7
hahahahhaha lol
mann this convo is wel..making my..morning? lol great
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guppy4816
Again not creepy, if more people did that, the world would be a better place.
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Thatguy87
not trying to be creepy or anything, but do you have any idea how much i love you right now and how much i would like to hug you?
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i2have1nothing7
AMEN lol
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guppy4816
So do the world a favor and press on, for all of our sakes. Have enough trust in yourself to succeed and trust in others to do the same. Help a fallen friend and inspire them to walk again....
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Thatguy87
lol state friends I guess
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i2have1nothing7
Thank you :)
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i2have1nothing7
haha agree with i2have1nothing7
and i live in Michigan :)
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guppy4816
The world is a mess. But it's people like you and me, and everyone else who actually believe in other people enough to inspire change and self betterment that make it worth living.
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Thatguy87
Live in California :P

but thatguy, seriously, thank you. i'm glad people like you exist. otherwise, this world would be a hell of a mess.
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i2have1nothing7
A soul is more important than a life, for without a soul, there would be no life.
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Thatguy87
North Carolina is where I live, and asking where someone lives isnt stalkerish, it's a question of getting to know someone better.
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Thatguy87
guppy i'm so glad that you're happy :) thatguy you should feel proud of yourself. you saved a soul tonight. not a life. but a soul. just as important C: thank you for helping her.
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i2have1nothing7
yeahh hey where u live?.....omg tht sounds stalker..ish
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guppy4816
Because you know you can succeed. And you know someone else who also knows it, no matter the distance, the belief still exists..
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Thatguy87
hahah idk y but my tears are gone and ive grown a smile :)
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guppy4816
lol it's only 10 for me :P
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i2have1nothing7
Prove yourself wrong. Succeed.
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Thatguy87
haha i just made myself laugh lol and holy cow its 1am where i live lol
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guppy4816
oh and guppy when i said what a joke i meant like me being easy going. go for it :D
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i2have1nothing7
Haha easygoing what a joke. But thanks anyways. And Thatguy, thanks, I do try my best c: I'm actually kind of glad this conversation exists
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i2have1nothing7
Yes you will try, guppy. And you'll succeed because you're stronger than you think. And when you fail, then you'll get back up and try again. That's what we're here on this earth for. To make mistakes. To learn from them. To rise above them. To be truly great. You will be among the greats.
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Thatguy87
gosh im not as easy going as i2have1nothing7
i cant promise anything but iillll..........try
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guppy4816
I feel your pain though, I really do. I get heartbroken daily, but in your case, all you can do is be happy you made someone else happy. I know its hard, but selflessness can make you feel better about yourself.
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Thatguy87
Don't be sorry...Just pass it along...
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Thatguy87
Thatguy that is exactly what I'm doing. I'm making everybody else happy. But I can never think of myself. I made my best friend hook up with the guy I'm in love with. He hates me for unknown reasons. They're both in love. I cry every night. I made another friend hook up with a guy I liked at the time. I never stop. I keep breaking my own heart.
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i2have1nothing7
i wanna say sorry....and yeah ur right
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guppy4816
Figure it this way, I used to be down alot, wanna know my way to cope? I do what I can to make others feel better. It may not seem like it at first, but I do care. If you knew me in person, I do what I can to make people smile, and laughter is a plus. I don't take life too seriously, and it helps me lose the drama associated with most people.
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Thatguy87
Guppy had a feeling you were a she but anyways.
And Thatguy... now that I read that previous comment. You're right in so many ways. I just want to cry you're so right.
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i2have1nothing7
its hard to believe words from a stranger..someone ive never met..only online has kept talling me toady might have been shit but tomorrow will be better...well it doesnt in my opinion
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guppy4816
my point is simply, nothing in life can't be surpassed if you actually try hard enough.
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Thatguy87
and...im a her lol
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guppy4816
you make me cry but u have a point
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guppy4816
She/he's not asking for compassion... just understanding. It's very different. And also, I've been through some of his/her pain. Not the death, but my mother had cancer and survived... now she's a bitch. I've been bullied from age 7 to 9 in physical and psychological ways. My parent's aren't divorced, but I spent 6 months with my dad because of my mom's cancer, and now 1 or 2 months with my (now bitchy) mom because my dad has to go away for work. I changed schools and I'm not bullied anymore, but it's been emotional hell lately. And now. I'm all alone. I'm sure that guppy's been through a lot also. Give him/her a break.
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i2have1nothing7
You dont get how close I was to my friend, You dont get how close I am to my dad, You dont get how close I was to my grandpa. Everyone will die, and unfortunately it's likely you'll have to watch those around you die as well. No one lives forever and life is shitty in that situation. Nothing we can do about it. If you could have saved her and didn't, doesnt make you a bad person, you just didn't and you have to move on. Nothing is ever worth killing yourself or cutting yourself over. If you try hard enough, you can cope without a crutch
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Thatguy87
u dont get how close i was to my sis. and i could have saved her, but i didnt thats what hurts me the most
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guppy4816
My best friend died, My dad is dying, My grandpa died. Everyone dies. But I dont cut to get around it. I remember the good times and move on.
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Thatguy87
my sister died last year
if u do care thts why im like this
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guppy4816
I do care, I just don't believe any of that is worth cutting.
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Thatguy87
welll yeah bullying is one, then theres parents, and..wit u dont need to know about my life cuz i know u dont even care
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guppy4816
What kind of issues could you honestly have at 13 that would "force" you to cut yourself? And PLEASE dont tell me it's because people make fun of you or dont like you.
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Thatguy87
ahh there u go..im 13 just like any other human i make mistakes and i try to stop..no im not tiptoeing either but i mean lifes tough were just trying to get by
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guppy4816
nope, can't blame others for it, again YOU have to resolve it.
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Thatguy87
yeah dude how old are you? and we're not relying on others when i say nobody will let me i mean i literally cna't. don't you think i haven't tried?
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i2have1nothing7
I'm 23 years old
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Thatguy87
YOU have to resolve it. Stop relying on others
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Thatguy87
hey thatguy87...how old are u? jw
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guppy4816
i know we're not tip toeing i mean personally i'm not... and nothing and nobody will let me resolve it.
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i2have1nothing7
Still a crutch and an excuse to avoid the issue. You'll never be able to surpass it unless you face it head on and stop tip toe-ing all around it.
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Thatguy87
See Im not trying to commit suicide
it's just a coping mechanism
Ive done it for 7 years
it's hard to stop
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justmoi
yup same i try to stop
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guppy4816
and again i'm just like guppy
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i2have1nothing7
yeah well i've been trying to do that for 2 month and idk about guppy but i'm pretty sure he/she has tried to solve it too. not liek we're not TRYING. sometimes it's just that cutting is a really bad attempt at suicide, but we just cant go all the way so we just make a cut
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i2have1nothing7
well sorry i dont have friends or family tht listen to me
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guppy4816
Like I said, I've had some rock bottom times in my life, but never grabbed a knife and said, "Yeah this will help!" Nope, I resorted to friends and family and adding productivity to my life and becoming a better person all around. I GROW from that rock bottom pit. I don't let it grow over me.
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Thatguy87
That's when you gain the courage to solve it yourself without resorting to something as lame as cutting.
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Thatguy87
i totally agree with guppy
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i2have1nothing7
that's the thing, we don't think it solves anything. it's just something to ease the mind. even though it doesn't. it's psychological, but it doesn't mean we're crazy. it's a bad period of time. Personally i'm pretty sure i'll get over it.
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i2have1nothing7
sometimes we cant solve the issue cuz no one understands
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guppy4816
It's not a point of saying whether its good or not, it's trying to understand the core mechanism that functions in your brain that attributes "Cutting" to "Solving the issue"
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Thatguy87
we're not asking for pity either
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i2have1nothing7
hahah u dont even know mw
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guppy4816
WE KNOW IT'S POINTLESS. WE DON'T THINK IT'S PRODUCTIVE. WE DON'T THINK IT HELPS US. IT'S A RELEASE MECHANISM THAT ONLY LASTS FOR A BIT. We get your point, we're not trying to prove that cutting is good.
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i2have1nothing7
All of your reasons seem like excuses to me, and I still cant feel pity for it.
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Thatguy87
yeah it is pointless but it makes me feel better....sometimes
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guppy4816
i cut cuz there is no one in the world tht actually cares.. i cant trust anyone anymore
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guppy4816
You cant just block out your inside feelings. All your doing is bottling them up. Stop cutting. It's pointless.
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Thatguy87
It's not healthy but it's a coping mechanism
one theory is that people get addicted to the endorphins it releases
I know I cut because it's a release and it means I don't have to feel anything inside
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justmoi
No, but I dont see why you would...usually when I dont like doing something, I stop. I dont make excuses to continue.
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Thatguy87
u think i like hurting myself?
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guppy4816
So your only possible choice is to cut into your body and cause harm? Yeah that makes sense. I've never been so sad that I thought, "I NEED A KNIFE IN ME TO MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!" It's pathetic really. Go talk to someone, go read a good book, watch a comedy, forget about your issues...GET OVER IT
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Thatguy87
yes i agree cutting is lame. but stabbing urself when ur sad....its just not like tht i guess i mean yes we hurt ourselves but sometimes we feel we have no other choice
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guppy4816
All of these things are harmful and useless, it just makes life worse
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LillyJane
Actually it is true....if you're having issues then you talk them out with someone or do something productive, not jabbing yourself with a knife everytime you get sad....almost killing yourself like someone else said earlier
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Thatguy87
Cutting is lame and I don't see how physical pain can make people feel better about themselves. And I don't even know how you can get addicted to such a hienious thing
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Caramel
yup....me2
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guppy4816
But so does things like drinking and drugs, but obviously, those are a problem tonight...
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LillyJane
Actually thats not true
As much as I hate it I self injury
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justmoi
...cutting may be lame but its also an addiction and makes ppl feel better
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